tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post5398000682052168289..comments2024-03-27T09:50:53.662-05:00Comments on Happy Catholic*: Noah ... the Movie ... the Controversies - MORE UPDATESJulie D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/08384291674560438678noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-70367274909100799872014-04-02T19:33:47.768-05:002014-04-02T19:33:47.768-05:00Wow! The flamewar about this movie seems to be tur...Wow! The flamewar about this movie seems to be turning into a much more entertaining enterprise that the film could ever be. Still haven't seen it, but I'm fascinated by all the impassioned calls to arms, on every side :)JoAnnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01904747145698764494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-11122648974485970392014-04-02T08:11:33.771-05:002014-04-02T08:11:33.771-05:00Well, your reply gave precious little reasons othe...Well, your reply gave precious little reasons other than literalism for selecting a movie ... and money to Hollywood, of course. What else was I to go on?<br /><br />As for being a Pollyanna, I think you are misinterpreting interest in a possibly good movie for a desire to drink the koolaid. Make no mistake, I can think for myself. In fact, it is my ability to do so which makes me unafraid to see the film. <br /><br />And believe me, Biblical grounding has nothing to do with it one way or the other. I'm interested in a good story. There are plenty of completely "faithful" stories out there which are told terribly and in which I'm completely disinterested.Julie D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08384291674560438678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-41785119691938002392014-04-01T19:33:21.447-05:002014-04-01T19:33:21.447-05:00I should add that I completely understand the comp...I should add that I completely understand the complaints, because some of those additions are totally off, but I don't agree with treating the director as pushing some sort of DaVinci Code, Last Temptation of Christ, or that film in the works by the Robocop director about how Jesus was "just a political leader" which is sure to be terrible. Those films clearly have nothing on their minds besides taking Christians down a peg and nothing else.<br /><br />From everything I've seen of this it seems that Aronofsky is making this to promote discussion and maybe also to understand the book itself better. You don't have to like his movie or his intent, but if a non-believer is asking questions in the best way he knows how I think it's good to give him answers instead of comparing him to Dan Brown and focusing on how he didn't get it. Of course he didn't get it, that's where the discussion comes in.JD Cowannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-38440243786356266652014-04-01T18:38:17.189-05:002014-04-01T18:38:17.189-05:00The director isn't even a Christian and in his...The director isn't even a Christian and in his mind it IS a book like LOTR. Not really that odd of a statement.<br /><br />I don't plan on seeing it either way, but the way some people compare it with Last Temptation really makes me raise an eyebrow. I don't think the director's intention is that off base, he just clearly doesn't understand the material... because he isn't a believer.JD Cowannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-66262916049119406342014-04-01T18:01:21.933-05:002014-04-01T18:01:21.933-05:00Come now. I think you are being more literal than...Come now. I think you are being more literal than even I. And, in charity, a little to much of a pollyanna.<br /> I am capable of making right judgements on entertainment that while not perfect are acceptable forms of story when it comes to Catholicism and Christianity at large. I can certainly rightly judge between Ben hur or Quo vadis and Last Temptation of Christ. And, without having seen or read The last temptation.... Just because a book or movie has biblical "grounding" (as promoted by the authors OR producers) does not make them suitable or desirable for viewing. newguy40https://www.blogger.com/profile/07691117339629857830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-28610988524062391022014-04-01T17:38:43.704-05:002014-04-01T17:38:43.704-05:00I understand ... though that does make me wonder h...I understand ... though that does make me wonder how you feel about The Ten Commandments. When reading Exodus lately I discovered that considerable liberties were taken with the story. Considerable. And Ben Hur? That's got fiction all over Christ's story. :-)<br /><br />I understand not wanting to see the movie for a number of reasons. The director is edgy and I myself haven't seen his other movies because he's rather dark. I suppose money is as good as any reason. <br /><br />However, your comment about mythologizing takes me back again, however, to an excerpt from above:<i>Do we as a Christian community really need to “protect” ourselves from a movie that isn’t 100% Biblically accurate? Would the Apostle Paul have run from the challenge? Rather than withdrawing from the discussion, I suggest that we seize the moment, turn the tables, and use this to our advantage. Pastors should be preaching messages on the Noah story. Let’s use the film to share our faith with friends and co-workers. Like the Old Testament’s Joseph, who rose to remarkable heights in an alien and hostile culture, let’s not shy away from these opportunities, rather, let’s use them to demonstrate the power of God’s Word.</i>Julie D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08384291674560438678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-48847704901309590422014-04-01T17:00:59.158-05:002014-04-01T17:00:59.158-05:00The problem with seeing the movie before judging i...The problem with seeing the movie before judging it, is you've already spent the money. And, that may be the only way to effect and influence how and what movies made. <br /><br />I just cannot accept entertainment that mythologizes any aspect Christianity or salvation history of which the Noah story is integral. I wouldn't read Anne Rice fictional books on Jesus. I wouldn't go to see Constantine (I know... I know... it's a graphic novel). <br />newguy40https://www.blogger.com/profile/07691117339629857830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-27966124731444896782014-04-01T13:52:40.960-05:002014-04-01T13:52:40.960-05:00They say it isn't for everyone, no matter what...They say it isn't for everyone, no matter what your faith is. In Bruges is one of my very favorite films but I am the first to warn people that it can be kind of rough, although it deals with salvation and redemption in very meaningful ways. I'll be curious to see what it's like.Julie D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08384291674560438678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-86558392327165254292014-04-01T13:51:27.952-05:002014-04-01T13:51:27.952-05:00You don't think so? Interesting.
As has been ...You don't think so? Interesting.<br /><br />As has been mentioned in the links I've got up, this movie isn't for everybody and, of course, that includes "every Christian." We've all gotta make those calls. I'm not ready to judge it until I've seen it, especially based on what I've read.<br /><br />For me it feels like a very appropriate way to spend cash. I'm going to see this one at the theater.Julie D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08384291674560438678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-11212859398717958642014-04-01T13:14:46.879-05:002014-04-01T13:14:46.879-05:00Odd statement... This is hardly just another book...Odd statement... This is hardly just another book ala LOTR. <br /><br />No interest in seeing this movie. Too many oddities that I've read about. Rock people building the ark. Stowaways eating the animals raw. <br /><br />I can find more approrpiate entertainment and ways of spending my hard earned cash...newguy40https://www.blogger.com/profile/07691117339629857830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-91612318098878350932014-03-31T17:22:39.005-05:002014-03-31T17:22:39.005-05:00There has never been a movie 100% accurate to the ...There has never been a movie 100% accurate to the book.<br /><br />Never.<br /><br />There never will be, either. It's simply not possible.JD Cowannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-53217527260034925202014-03-29T21:49:20.705-05:002014-03-29T21:49:20.705-05:00The movie was horrible. Not only was it blasphemou...The movie was horrible. Not only was it blasphemous on numerous accounts, but deeply biblically inaccurate in many areas as well.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04865160236790338493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-40316483499591658422014-03-22T10:49:01.594-05:002014-03-22T10:49:01.594-05:00Oooo, how could I have forgotten The Prince of Egy...Oooo, how could I have forgotten The Prince of Egypt! One of my very favorites! :-)Julie D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08384291674560438678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-58183840744301150112014-03-21T17:52:48.324-05:002014-03-21T17:52:48.324-05:00Thanks for your excellent comments, Julie. I alway...Thanks for your excellent comments, Julie. I always have a high appreciation for Stephen Greydanus' reviews, even when I don't entirely agree. I'm very discriminating about seeing films in the theater-I don't think I would have even considered 'Noah' worthwhile until I read this post. I love how you mentioned midrash...I do think that sometimes, in our quest to be orthodox, especially in regards to scripture, many Catholics become a bit dodgy about using their imagination when it comes to biblical stories, and as a result, cut ourselves off from a lot of the richness, drama, and adventure inherent in scripture, letting the stories become like sterile myths. Humans have made sense of things through stories since the beginning of time-it's part of our nature. Now I'm itching to watch 'The Ten Commandments' and another favorite, not-quite-true-to-scripture biblical adaptation, 'The Prince of Egypt'! :DJoAnnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01904747145698764494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-88717817209522925632014-03-21T13:53:14.812-05:002014-03-21T13:53:14.812-05:00Three times round the inside of the ark.Three times round the inside of the ark.Julie D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08384291674560438678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-24936116827035331252014-03-21T13:04:58.286-05:002014-03-21T13:04:58.286-05:00Well, maybe, but is there a car chase? Well, maybe, but is there a car chase? Lawrence Hall, HSGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04906964306659335649noreply@blogger.com