tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post243179562586431203..comments2024-03-27T09:50:53.662-05:00Comments on Happy Catholic*: U.S. Enters "Brave New World" With Refusal to Ban Sex-Selection Abortions. Me? I Aim to Misbehave.Julie D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/08384291674560438678noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-20704597845735931342012-06-03T12:53:31.091-05:002012-06-03T12:53:31.091-05:00I have to disagree with Ron Paul and some of the p...I have to disagree with Ron Paul and some of the posters here regarding the gendercide bill. Whether or not the law would be easily enforced doesn't change whether it is right or not. Even if it was impossible to enforce and made no difference in the number of sex selective abortions, it would at least acknowledge that it is wrong to kill someone based on their gender. In killing the bill they have said it is OK to kill girls.<br /><br />As for it "increasing the size of government" this is the thing government is *supposed* to do (protect the rights of citizens). I am all against government pork, but protecting life isn't pork.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02491084930433319172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-84085434568311210462012-06-02T00:36:02.743-05:002012-06-02T00:36:02.743-05:00I was so spitting mad I couldn't write about i...I was so spitting mad I couldn't write about it. I'll get around to it, though.Jennifer Fitzhttp://jenniferfitz.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-53991839372062794422012-06-01T19:49:06.039-05:002012-06-01T19:49:06.039-05:00I know there is a flaw in this legislation as Jack...I know there is a flaw in this legislation as Jackie D points out, but really they needed to make a statement. Some legislation is only meant to establish a public value. This is one of those. The only reason this failed was because Obama put the weight of his presidency behind killing it. He couldn't risk alienating his feminist base. He is Thee Most Pro Abortion president in history, and even in the final months of his administration he continues to be. And yes, after today's jobs report, I can confidently say these are Obama's final months as president.Mannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15396201693030286919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-9643313559145702062012-06-01T17:43:40.698-05:002012-06-01T17:43:40.698-05:00Atlantic Monthly's article, while having a def...Atlantic Monthly's article, while having a definite pro-abortion bias, did have the facts on how there is gender-selection driven abortion going on in the U.S. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/sex-selection-in-america-why-it-persists-and-how-we-can-change-it/257864/<br /><br />After reading it, I started to realize, working in Information Technology as I do, how many of the Indians I know, and the two Chinese women I know have exactly 1 girl and 1 boy and the boy is often the younger child, sometimes younger by quite a bit. I am not judging them, it just jibes rather closely with the stats in this article, "However, as birth order rises, apparently so does selection -- at least, in certain ethnic groups. With 2000 U.S. Census data, researchers investigating Korean, Chinese, and Indian communities found that, after having one girl, parents have as many as 1.17 boys per girl when their next child is born. With two girls at home, the ratio goes up to 1.51 boys per girl for the third child (meaning 151 boys are born for each 100 girls). These skewed ratios aren't present among other ethnic groups in America."CWriteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06654242399318374459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-32497436221828790212012-06-01T17:35:10.743-05:002012-06-01T17:35:10.743-05:00JackieD, trying to parse the thing down to the sim...JackieD, trying to parse the thing down to the simplest point, I guess I can see your points. <br /><br />However, if not now, then when?<br /><br />Murder happens. People get away with it and use loopholes. But we make the laws to stop it anyway. We say, "This far and no farther."<br /><br />That bill would have been a beginning to admitting that there can be something wrong with choosing to kill your baby before birth. And that is exactly why so many would not vote for it.<br /><br />And, as a Catholic who believes in the things we cannot see, if that bill saved even a few lives, would it not be worth it? Would it not be worth it also for the immortal souls of the mothers and fathers who were given another chance to turn away from evil? Or the immortal souls of the doctors who would have a few less victims on their hands?<br /><br />I believe it would. :-)Julie D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08384291674560438678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-29088785404449240762012-06-01T17:27:00.703-05:002012-06-01T17:27:00.703-05:00JackieD, I get your point, but after watching DVD ...JackieD, I get your point, but after watching DVD of women regretting their abortion, it would only take one post-abortive woman coming forward after having expressed gender-selection as her reason for the abortion, particularly if she had one additional eye witness with her during the consultation, to come forward and then any health workers involved would be in jail for 1 year. If you think about it, some of the women...Indians, South Koreans, Chinese that have emigrated here might be doing it under pressure from husband or family elders and then after regretting it and realizing how evil and unfair it is to the female unborn child, want to do something about it. Now there is only ground for them to try to do something to alter this in 4 states rather than in all 50 states.CWriteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06654242399318374459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-40239835589925519942012-06-01T17:23:20.008-05:002012-06-01T17:23:20.008-05:00You guys are good medicine for me. :-)
I looked a...You guys are good medicine for me. :-)<br /><br />I looked at the response piece <a href="http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/why_the_outrage" rel="nofollow">here</a> where the philosophers are completely baffled at the outrage and it puts the arguments well. I think it was genuine and, in a way, I must honor them for following the facts and behavior to a logical conclusion. At least they are being honest, unlike those who are all for abortion and then quail at the idea of such a proposal. It reminds me of the couple who sued over having a Downe's Syndrome baby (which I meant to include in the post). Nothing is too outrageous for me to believe it these day, I suppose.<br /><br />I also think of how many women I know who would love to have a little girl but wind up with a little boy. It isn't just the girls (in America anyway) who need us to misbehave. :-)<br /><br />And I have been reminding myself that God does the heavy lifting, but we are called upon to be faithful.Julie D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08384291674560438678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-26454610895016578212012-06-01T17:17:35.095-05:002012-06-01T17:17:35.095-05:00As disgusting as the practice of sex-selective abo...As disgusting as the practice of sex-selective abortion is, this bill had me on the fence. On the one hand, any decrease in abortions is a good thing, on the other, how effective would this law be? While we're talking about brave new worlds, I'm also reminded of 1984's thoughtcrimes. What the bill is suggesting is that it's ok to kill children for things like convenience, economic need or personal choice, but wrong to kill them because of their gender (which is essentially saying the same thing as above, just bringing cultural expectations into the picture). Not to mention that it would be laughably easy to avoid, simply being careful about what you say and when you say it would circumvent the issue.Mama Hobbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09424901121391275830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-33965632900949035232012-06-01T17:09:51.338-05:002012-06-01T17:09:51.338-05:00I think Ron Paul says he voted against the ban bec...I think Ron Paul says he voted against the ban because the law furthered big government and wouldn't accomplish anything. And it probably won't. China actually is one of the very many countries in the world that have laws against sex selective abortion. You can see how well that works there. But, as Teresa of Calcutta said, "God doesn't require us to succeed, He only requires that you try." The law is a teacher, as the saying goes. The House has just decided to teach us that little girls have no intrinsic value. That quote from "Firefly" is my favorite. I think (I hope) there are an increasing number of us who are becoming willing to misbehave.TerentiaJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09940638946765994259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-5097699735614020772012-06-01T16:32:28.431-05:002012-06-01T16:32:28.431-05:00Great post, Julie. I am with you on the outrage a...Great post, Julie. I am with you on the outrage and posted about the same. Yes their arguments are specious. Thank goodness for the time constraint that forced their hand. Still want to know why Ron Paul voted against. He's smart and speaks well for the unborn, but then I speculate he thinks this should be a state matter and not federal since he's said that before. Still, if you are doing what you can to save lives...I think what they really feared was there are so few abortionists and nurses willing to work at these centers, if you really had the strength of federal law to put one of them away for 1 year, there would be major risk incorporated with forecasted revenue if even one complaint was lodged.CWriteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06654242399318374459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6881054.post-5149877602052210482012-06-01T16:18:09.463-05:002012-06-01T16:18:09.463-05:00Terrific stuff. My own belief is that the "af...Terrific stuff. My own belief is that the "after-birth abortion" piece was intentionally provocative in order to raise the issue, and I thank you for pointing out the similarity to Philip Dick's story, which I am certain influenced it. (As did Swift's "A Modest Proposal.") But the scary thing is, it raised little concern except among those who already fight for life.<br /><br />I am always (too) reluctant to stand up in this fight, so I have to thank you for reminding me of the one person whose witness would count most with me. It should be Jesus, but at the moment it's Mal. Count me among the misbehavers.Joanne K. McPortlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06767838116702355734noreply@blogger.com